neil: bill clinton maybehas the best example. he raised income taxes, but he lowered a lot of investnt related taxes. that was enough to impress even art laffer who voted for the guy twice. i wonder whether that is the solution. that if you're going to tax, fine, okay. i'm not a big fan, but you have to provide a tax code somewhere else, and that's what's missing here. >> well, there's too much taxation, and the spendg is incredibly just overwhelming. that's the problem, obviously, the spheppedding problem, and, really, i'm frustrated as a republican because i want to see the republicans be as aggressive it not more aggressive than obama has been about taxes. wherare they being aggressive? they are not doing it. i hope that boehner and company, what they ome up with -- cut the spending because that's obviously the big problem. as far as taxes, everything, you know, businesses, if they are crushed, they will leave the country. we will make businesses leave left and right. that will happen. we can't have that. we have to be just as